I am getting a vibe that maybe Auntconnie is a sort of 'Nelson Birdwell' on speed....
(you do remember nelson dontcha?!)
Oz
Aussie Oz
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Stop Putting Apostate Stickers On My Literature! They "Cost Lots of Money!"
by AuntConnie in"true story" the circuit overseer came to our kingdom hall and read us the riot act (local needs style) "magazines of this quality are not free, they cost money and we are not generating enough donations to defray the cost of the magazines(or running the top of the line printing presses) i get my ass out of bed to place literature in the laundray cleaning, coin opperated shops and some asshole puts his apostate stickers on our magazines.
do you know how hard it is to get up at 6:00 am and how expensive those magazines are costing the organization to print?
please stop defiling our literature, i dont post hateful stickers on your website so please leave my magazines alone.
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If Abraham had never lived...No Jewish nation, no Islam, no christianity
by Aussie Oz ini guess the guy really did, that he did as the bible says and that he fathered the jewish nation, fathered by extension islam and christianity as well.
maybe he really did, because well, we have that trinity of belief systems existing that we cannot deny.. pretend with for a moment that he never did though.
lets pretend that the jewish nation never came to be, that the koran thus never got written, that the ot never got written, there was no jewish saviour prophecies uttered and that humanity made it through the last 4000 years or so without either of those three and their offshoots like christianity.. what would history be like?.
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I guess the guy really did, that he did as the bible says and that he fathered the Jewish nation, fathered by extension Islam and Christianity as well. Maybe he really did, because well, we have that trinity of belief systems existing that we cannot deny.
Pretend with for a moment that he never did though. Lets pretend that the Jewish nation never came to be, that the Koran thus never got written, that the OT never got written, there was no jewish saviour prophecies uttered and that humanity made it through the last 4000 years or so without either of those three and their offshoots like christianity.
What would history be like?
We would have seen many wars, just none where christians, Muslims or Jews were involved in.
We would have all the eastern and oriental religions still, and a good many of those had/have real great morals and values.
We would have still the native, aboriginal peoples and their animal worship or whatever.
I have no doubt that Rome would have been what it was, the ancient cultures with their culture and learning would still be there.
Countries may be named differently, explorers would have had to fund their own shows.
I also have no doubt that the industrial revolution would have still occured at some point in time, maybe sooner, maybe later but still would.
Modern science and medicine would have still happened.
Although all of them differ, they still have codes of conduct, laws, punishment, morals, ways to care for family, a sense of community.
My point that I hope i am making soundly is that if the big three had never come to be, the world would be essentially the same. People being born people dying, nations rising and falling, the way of humanity would still be soldiering on, some parts of the globe would be in famine others in plenty, some would be wracked by war some would be in peace. Such is the way of humanity.
My argument? The big three have not done ANYTHING significant to change the world, to make it a better place!
I argue that in fact the world might just be a better place had Abraham not existed.
Yes, if NOW the big three disapeared in a big puff of smoke or the UN crushed them all out of existance we would notice a huge vaccume. But I also think it would be very quickly filled by perhaps a fresher breath of air for humanity too.
For three religions claiming to be almighty gods chosen ones, and who have dominated so much of the worlds recorded history, they have failed mankind in such big ways they they should all close themselves down in shame.
The 'some good' thay they have done, is no greater than that of other cultures that have not been jewish, Muslim or Christian.
Oz
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How many went from christian to something else?
by Satanus ini noticed some posters who used to argue along christian lines, but don't do so, anymore.
granted, it's a tough line to keep to on this forum.
i would be interested to hear (read) of people who came here as believers, and then transitioned to unbeliever, and the reasons for that.
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Aussie Oz
I came here as a JW apologist at the start.
I was for a good dozen or something years physically OUT but mentally IN. I left the JWs basically because i no longer wanted to be a 'christian' but still believed it ALL. I was all ''leave me alone to sin my way to armageddon where I would stand on my feet and give jehovah the finger while I watched the firey brimstone heading my way"
I came here when i was looking for information to confirm or deny that the WT would support my ex in destroying my relationship with my children. I couldn't believe thay would but found they did. So began the journey to apostate.
What followed has been a journey into total disbelief in the bible, an intense dislike of any religion esp christianity and more of a deist belief...you know, god made us and then what off to the great celestial whorehouse for a good time and forgot all about his pathetic little experiment. The more i disconected from old programming the more I was free to actually think on other possibilities and to even develop my own concepts.
Maybe I am now going to total disbelief in even that, because frankly I don't think it matters squat anyway...I am here, I have reproduced, I do my best to have a good life and thats the way it will be till I pop my clogs i guess.
I would LIKE there to be an afterlife so i can watch humanity develop over the next whatever but can't do so becuase all it would be is a construct of my own imagination anyway.
BUT in no way do I find that a problem, I see life full of richness, getting older makes you aware of what really matters. Life is about what i do everyday, not where I am going. NOTHING is missing. There is no hole in my soul that needs filling.
Thankyou JWN for removing the scales from my eyes
So thats one from believer to nothing I guess!
Oz
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Don't have the heart to turn the old sister away in person, gonna write a letter instead.
by Joliette inright now it is 5:41am here in milwaukee, i cannot sleep and it is utter torture.
ugh!.
i have to be at work at 3pm today, and i cannot sleep.
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Aussie Oz
sorry but you are just an easy RV and placements on a monthly report to her.
Yeah she's nice and all, but the caring don't go past the JW mindset.
She is NOT old. Sock her between the eyes with the truth, the REAL truth.
she'll toddle off and not give you another thought.
Oz
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I had some fun today.
by Defianttruth ini took the kids to a park at the center of our town today.
i say some inappropriately dressed people, and decided to investigate.
i keep a close eye on people at the play ground who don't fit in.
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Aussie Oz
That wont be an assembly witnessing experience...
oh hell, the way they spin crap it probably will be!
Oz
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"We have truly seen Jehovah's hand" - the shocking side of Watchtower propaganda
by cedars inas a special "thank you" gift to the watch tower society's team of lawyers for getting jwsurvey shut down yesterday, i have written a new article focussing on the experience of the nigeria plane crash from pages 29 and 30 of the 2013 yearbook.
the experience purports to be about the relief committee set up to assist a witness family whose home was destroyed by a deadly plane crash that claimed over 150 lives rather than the freak survival of the family because they obediently attended their meeting.. still, the reaction of witnesses on facebook unmistakably demonstrates that the real aim of the watchtower propaganda machine was mostly achieved in this article.
despite the fact that two witnesses were recently killed in a bus crash on their way to an assembly, apparently those who obey the bible's command to not forsake gathering together will experience "jehovah's hand" of protection.. here is the link.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-have-truly-seen-jehovahs-hand-the-shocking-side-of-watchtower-propaganda.
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Aussie Oz
As with all JW facebook pages, they are all just pat ourselves on the back and beatdown as apostate anyone who does not spew the same regurgatated phrases.
It seems from facebok too that the african JWs dont obey the GB and get off facebook...
Oz
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Publishers Need A Background Check Before Moving To My Kingdom Hall.
by AuntConnie in.
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background check first.. .
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Aussie Oz
FEEL THE LOVE IN GOD'S CHOSEN ORGANIZATION!...
FEEL THE BROTHERHOOD THAT NO OTHER RELIGION HAS!
Oz
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The Tower of Babel based on plans of an ANTEDILUVIAN building?
by raymond frantz inhi guys ,i hope you can help here .i'm currently researching the tower of babel and the reasons for building it in the first place?
could it be that nimrod had information or plans based on a pre-flood building ?
bab+el=gate+god could it be an attempt to rebuild a pre-flood structure that served as the gates to the god's (whether materialised satan+demons) or base of angels on earth ?
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Aussie Oz
where is the proof such a structure even existed in the first place?
Oz
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I am sure costa rica has internet...he can only hide for so long.
Oz
kinda of curious as to how Tylin knows this guys whereabouts when the law doesn't...but i guess thats why they put up the notice, to find someone that does.
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JWs in the UK: 27 years of yearbook stats and stagnation
by 88JM inokay, so i went on a bit of a statistics binge after looking at poland.
i thought i would have a look at my home country's yearbook stats here in the uk (britain).. so here they are for your consideration.
had to go into the loft for some of the older yearbooks, and found some other older publications too.. nothing too remarkable as such here, as far as i can see, apart from:.
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Aussie Oz
Put some little train tracks on the top of the graph for australia and one would have a roller coaster ride to rival Disneyland (other than loop the loops)
Oz